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11-06-2009, 09:53 PM
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Supplements for Type - 2 Diabetics
Hi All,
I am a Type - 2 Diabetic for 4-5 years now... I am into Amateur BodyBuilding since last 1 year. Since then I have been able to successfully manage my Diabetes.
Now I want to grow... My Coach has advised me to take Creatine Monohydrate and Stanazolol.
My Question here is that is it okay for me to take any of these above supplements. If yes, any specified dosage... My training is very intense and regular, so no problems in digesting or utilizing the above stuff...
Kindly advise me on this...
Regards,
Dee
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11-07-2009, 05:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ILiveStrong
Hi All,
I am a Type - 2 Diabetic for 4-5 years now... I am into Amateur BodyBuilding since last 1 year. Since then I have been able to successfully manage my Diabetes.
Now I want to grow... My Coach has advised me to take Creatine Monohydrate and Stanazolol.
My Question here is that is it okay for me to take any of these above supplements. If yes, any specified dosage... My training is very intense and regular, so no problems in digesting or utilizing the above stuff...
Kindly advise me on this...
Regards,
Dee
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Stanozolol (winstrol) is a steroid not a supplement, ur coach is an idiot
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11-07-2009, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ILiveStrong
Hi All,
I am a Type - 2 Diabetic for 4-5 years now... I am into Amateur BodyBuilding since last 1 year. Since then I have been able to successfully manage my Diabetes.
Now I want to grow... My Coach has advised me to take Creatine Monohydrate and Stanazolol.
My Question here is that is it okay for me to take any of these above supplements. If yes, any specified dosage... My training is very intense and regular, so no problems in digesting or utilizing the above stuff...
Kindly advise me on this...
Regards,
Dee
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Creatine is fine to use and should be a STAPLE in your supplement regime especially if you are resistance training. ~5g a day is all you need to dose. Either: a) have half pre and post-resistance training, or b) dose all post-resistance training.
Stanazol is a steroid (as already mentioned by br4v0), and certainly NOT something you should consider.
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11-08-2009, 01:24 AM
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Creatine is fine to use and should be a STAPLE in your supplement regime especially if you are resistance training. ~5g a day is all you need to dose. Either: a) have half pre and post-resistance training, or b) dose all post-resistance training.
Stanazol is a steroid (as already mentioned by br4v0), and certainly NOT something you should consider.
~Rosie
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thanks to u both for ur views...
Guejsn - Does using Creatine okay for a type 2 diabetic like me?
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11-08-2009, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ILiveStrong
thanks to u both for ur views...
Guejsn - Does using Creatine okay for a type 2 diabetic like me?
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Creatine will not effect your glucose readings or anything else to cause an issue with being a diabetic! It does not effect my sugar readings at all!
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11-08-2009, 05:39 PM
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thanks to u both for ur views...
Guejsn - Does using Creatine okay for a type 2 diabetic like me?
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I have worked with Type I and Type II diabetics. Creatine is FINE for both to use, and should be a STAPLE if resistance training. Anything other than the staples (i.e. creatine , multivitamin, good fats, protein powder, and BCAAs) you need to consider carefully before using.
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11-08-2009, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Guejsn
I have worked with Type I and Type II diabetics. Creatine is FINE for both to use, and should be a STAPLE if resistance training. Anything other than the staples (i.e. creatine , multivitamin, good fats, protein powder, and BCAAs) you need to consider carefully before using.
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I agree, other supplements can also be used but would be advised to research some form of liver care supplement such as milk thistle. Make sure you read the ingredients list also to make sure you are not supplementing too much of carbs to keep your levels within range. As rosie stated all of those supplements will have ZERO side effects to being a diabetic!
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11-08-2009, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by svtfocusmansvt
I agree, other supplements can also be used but would be advised to research some form of liver care supplement such as milk thistle. Make sure you read the ingredients list also to make sure you are not supplementing too much of carbs to keep your levels within range. As rosie stated all of those supplements will have ZERO side effects to being a diabetic!
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Not sure WHY you would want LIVER care with other supplements. A diabetic should always consider other supplements carefully, to see how they will affect insulin, blood sugar, and other factors; nothing to do with the liver! And carbohydrates at the appropriate times are essential for a diabetic!
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11-08-2009, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Guejsn
Not sure WHY you would want LIVER care with other supplements. A diabetic should always consider other supplements carefully, to see how they will affect insulin, blood sugar, and other factors; nothing to do with the liver! And carbohydrates at the appropriate times are essential for a diabetic!
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Diabetics are more prone to liver diseases. Some supplements will have a harsh effect on the liver which milk thistle or a liver protectant supplement will help in preventing liver damage. Which is a factor for a diabetic choosing supplements. Blood glucose levels are also a factor with choosing supplements which if the glucose is not properly controlled liver damages / diseases are a very high possibility (same reason goes for why doctors recommend diabetics not to drink due to them being more prone for liver damages). You can control a supplement with adjusting the insulin intake if you properly monitor your blood glucose readings. And if done correctly you can use the insulin to help with gaining muscle mass.
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11-08-2009, 09:55 PM
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Effect on Kidney and Liver
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Originally Posted by svtfocusmansvt
Diabetics are more prone to liver diseases. Some supplements will have a harsh effect on the liver which milk thistle or a liver protectant supplement will help in preventing liver damage. Which is a factor for a diabetic choosing supplements. Blood glucose levels are also a factor with choosing supplements which if the glucose is not properly controlled liver damages / diseases are a very high possibility (same reason goes for why doctors recommend diabetics not to drink due to them being more prone for liver damages). You can control a supplement with adjusting the insulin intake if you properly monitor your blood glucose readings. And if done correctly you can use the insulin to help with gaining muscle mass.
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Yeah... I asked from a doctor, if I should take creatine, but he said no... I guess the reason being that Creatine is being filtered by the Kidneys... and Diabetic are prone to kidney failure so it would give an additional pressure to Kidneys If I will use creatine...
Any thoughts / ideas on this one...?
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11-08-2009, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ILiveStrong
Yeah... I asked from a doctor, if I should take creatine, but he said no... I guess the reason being that Creatine is being filtered by the Kidneys... and Diabetic are prone to kidney failure so it would give an additional pressure to Kidneys If I will use creatine...
Any thoughts / ideas on this one...?
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The only time you would see an issue with creatine being harsh on the kidneys if you take too much. If you take 5 grams a day post workout you will have no problems! If you are worried you do have an option of taking some milk thistle or some liver armor. You may try speaking to your doctor about milk thistle or liver armor. If you research CTD labs they have a good product to help out! The product is called 'Liver Armor.' I have attached some links for you to read over on creatine.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak22.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catcrea.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio2.htm
Also if you drink plenty of water it will flush out any toxins that may be present from the creatine.
Here is a link to a more scientific explanation to help you out; http://altmedicine.about.com/od/crea...atine.htm?nl=1
Last edited by svtfocusmansvt; 11-08-2009 at 10:25 PM.
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